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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Y Siambr - Y_Senedd. View directions

Note: 160(v5) 

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Transcript: Transcript for 03/10/2018 - Plenary

Items
Note No. Item

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Energy, Planning and Rural Affairs

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2.

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Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

Questions 1 – 7 and 9 – 11 were asked. Question 8 was withdrawn. Question 5 was answered by the Minister for Environment. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary and Minister after question 2.

 

(45 mins)

2.

Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 3.

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Minutes:

The item started at 14.18

Questions 2 – 8 were asked. Question 1 was withdrawn. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary and Minister after question 3.

 

(0 mins)

3.

Topical Questions

No Topical Questions were received.

Minutes:

No Topical questions were submitted

 

(5 mins)

4.

90 Second Statements

Minutes:

The item started at 15.09

Mark Isherwood made a statement on– Cerebal Palsy awareness month and the need for Wales to have a Cerebal Palsy register.

 

Motions to elect Members to Committees

The item started at 15.11

NDM6822 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 17.3, elects Caroline Jones (Independent) as a Member of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee in place of Neil Hamilton (United Kingdom Independence Party).

NDM6823 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 17.3, elects Neil Hamilton (United Kingdom Independence Party) as a Member of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee.

The motions were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(5 mins)

5.

Motion to amend Standing Orders

NDM6817 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee ‘Amending Standing Orders: Implementation of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018’ laid in the Table Office on 26 September 2018.

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 21 and 27, and to introduce new Standing Orders 30B and 30C, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.

Supporting Documents
Report of the Business Committee
Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee - The Powers in the EU (Withdrawal) Bill to make subordinate legislation - operational matters

Minutes:

The item started at 15.11

NDM6817 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee ‘Amending Standing Orders: Implementation of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018’ laid in the Table Office on 26 September 2018.

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 21 and 27, and to introduce new Standing Orders 30B and 30C, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

6.

Debate on the Petitions Committee report: Petition P-04-682 Routine Screening for Type 1 Diabetes in Children and Young People

NDM6814 David J. Rowlands (South Wales East)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes the report of the Petitions Committee on Petition P-04-682, 'Routine Screening for Type 1 Diabetes in Children and Young People', which was laid in the Table Office on 13 July 2018.

Note: The response of the Welsh Government to the report was laid in the Table Office on 26 September 2018.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.19

NDM6814 David J. Rowlands (South Wales East)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes the report of the Petitions Committee on Petition P-04-682, 'Routine Screening for Type 1 Diabetes in Children and Young People', which was laid in the Table Office on 13 July 2018.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

7.

Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) - Baby Loss

NDM6801

Lynne Neagle (Torfaen)
David Rees (Aberavon)

Adam Price (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

Supporters
Angela Burns (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire)
Dai Lloyd (South Wales West)

Helen Mary Jones (Mid and West Wales)
Jayne Bryant (Newport West)

 To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Recognises that, in 2016, 263 infants died or were stillborn in Wales and that families who are affected by baby loss often cannot access appropriate services or support.

2. Welcomes Baby Loss Awareness week, which is organised by a collation of more than 60 charities throughout the UK and will take place from 9 to 15 October 2018 providing an opportunity to raise awareness about the importance of excellent bereavement care for all parents after pregnancy loss or the death of a baby.

3. Recognises that Baby Loss Awareness Week also provides an important opportunity for bereaved parents, and their families and friends, to unite and commemorate their babies’ lives.

4. Recognises that all bereaved parents should receive the same high standard of care when a baby dies, and that while good care cannot remove parents’ pain and grief, it can help parents through this devastating time.

5. Calls on the Welsh Government to take action to improve the care that parents receive after pregnancy or baby loss by:

a) committing to improve and deliver better bereavement care which can be accessed by all parents after pregnancy or baby loss;

b) adopting the core set of standards for bereavement care which have been used to underpin the National Bereavement Care Pathway in other areas of the UK;

c) working with NHS Wales to ensure all staff who come into contact with bereaved parents receive bereavement care training.

Office of National Statistics - Child Mortality England and Wales 2018  

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.09

NDM6801

Lynne Neagle (Torfaen)
David Rees (Aberavon)
Adam Price (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

Supporters
Angela Burns (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire)
Dai Lloyd (South Wales West)

Helen Mary Jones (Mid and West Wales)
Jayne Bryant (Newport West)

 To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Recognises that, in 2016, 263 infants died or were stillborn in Wales and that families who are affected by baby loss often cannot access appropriate services or support.

2. Welcomes Baby Loss Awareness week, which is organised by a collation of more than 60 charities throughout the UK and will take place from 9 to 15 October 2018 providing an opportunity to raise awareness about the importance of excellent bereavement care for all parents after pregnancy loss or the death of a baby.

3. Recognises that Baby Loss Awareness Week also provides an important opportunity for bereaved parents, and their families and friends, to unite and commemorate their babies’ lives.

4. Recognises that all bereaved parents should receive the same high standard of care when a baby dies, and that while good care cannot remove parents’ pain and grief, it can help parents through this devastating time.

5. Calls on the Welsh Government to take action to improve the care that parents receive after pregnancy or baby loss by:

a) committing to improve and deliver better bereavement care which can be accessed by all parents after pregnancy or baby loss;

b) adopting the core set of standards for bereavement care which have been used to underpin the National Bereavement Care Pathway in other areas of the UK;

c) working with NHS Wales to ensure all staff who come into contact with bereaved parents receive bereavement care training.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

(60 mins)

8.

Plaid Cymru debate - People's Vote

NDM6816 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Believes that a people’s vote should be held through a UK-wide referendum on the final terms of the UK’s exit from the European Union.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete all and replace with:

1. Believes that the outcome of the UK-wide referendum on the UK’s membership of the European Union must be respected.

2. Notes that the people of Wales voted to leave the European Union.

3. Calls upon the Welsh Government to support the UK Government in protecting the integrity of the United Kingdom as we leave the EU.

[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected] 

Amendment 2 - Gareth Bennett (South Wales Central)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1.  Recognises that it is the decided will of the people that the United Kingdom leaves the European Union, which was expressed in a referendum held less than 27 months ago.

2. Calls upon politicians opposed to the United Kingdom leaving the EU to respect the recently expressed wishes of Welsh and British voters and stop trying to undermine the Brexit process.

3. Calls upon the Welsh Government to work with the UK Government to secure the best deal for Wales and the UK, outside the EU, the single market and the customs union.

[If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be de-selected] 

Amendment 3 - Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all after “believes that” and replace with:

the option of a people’s vote must be kept on the table and in particular if the Prime Minister is unable to secure agreement on the final terms of the UK’s exit from the European Union and there is no subsequent general election, then the people must decide on the way forward.

 

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.44

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM6816 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Believes that a people’s vote should be held through a UK-wide referendum on the final terms of the UK’s exit from the European Union.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

7

0

40

47

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete all and replace with:

1. Believes that the outcome of the UK-wide referendum on the UK’s membership of the European Union must be respected.

2. Notes that the people of Wales voted to leave the European Union.

3. Calls upon the Welsh Government to support the UK Government in protecting the integrity of the United Kingdom as we leave the EU.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

10

0

36

46

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 - Gareth Bennett (South Wales Central)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1.  Recognises that it is the decided will of the people that the United Kingdom leaves the European Union, which was expressed in a referendum held less than 27 months ago.

2. Calls upon politicians opposed to the United Kingdom leaving the EU to respect the recently expressed wishes of Welsh and British voters and stop trying to undermine the Brexit process.

3. Calls upon the Welsh Government to work with the UK Government to secure the best deal for Wales and the UK, outside the EU, the single market and the customs union.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

2

10

35

47

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

Amendment 3 - Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all after “believes that” and replace with:

the option of a people’s vote must be kept on the table and in particular if the Prime Minister is unable to secure agreement on the final terms of the UK’s exit from the European Union and there is no subsequent general election, then the people must decide on the way forward.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

19

46

Amendment 3 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM6816 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Believes that the option of a people’s vote must be kept on the table and in particular if the Prime Minister is unable to secure agreement on the final terms of the UK’s exit from the European Union and there is no subsequent general election, then the people must decide on the way forward.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

18

46

The motion as amended was agreed.

9.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 17.48

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

(30 mins)

10.

Short Debate

NDM6815 Nick Ramsay (Monmouth)

See differently – living with sight loss in Wales today.

How we can remove the barriers to equal participation in society of blind and partially sighted people.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 17.51

NDM6815 Nick Ramsay (Monmouth)

See differently – living with sight loss in Wales today.

How we can remove the barriers to equal participation in society of blind and partially sighted people.

 

 

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