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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Y Siambr - Y Senedd

Note: 122(v4) 

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Transcript: Transcript for 28/02/2018 - Plenary

Items
Note No. Item

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2.

 

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Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary after question 2.

 

(45 mins)

2.

Questions to the Leader of the House

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice to the Leader of the House after Question 2.

 

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Minutes:

The item started at 14.21

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Leader of the House after question 2.

(15 mins)

3.

Questions to the Assembly Commission

Minutes:

The item started at 15.06

The 3 questions were asked.

 

(0 mins)

4.

Topical Questions

No Topical Questions have been accepted.

Minutes:

No Topical Questions were accepted.

 

(5 mins)

5.

90 Second Statements

Minutes:

The item started at 15.16

Simon Thomas made a statement on A plastic-free Aberporth

Vikki Howells made a statement on “LGBT History Month 2018”

Darren Millar made a statement on the Inaugural St David’s Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast

 

(60 mins)

6.

Debate on the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee report: UK governance post Brexit

NDM6663 Mick Antoniw (Pontypridd)

 

The National Assembly for Wales:

 

Notes the report of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee on its inquiry into UK Governance post Brexit, which was laid in the Table Office on 2 February 2018.

Minutes:

The item started at 15.21

NDM6663 Mick Antoniw (Pontypridd)

The National Assembly for Wales:

Notes the report of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee on its inquiry into UK Governance post Brexit, which was laid in the Table Office on 2 February 2018.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

7.

Welsh Conservatives debate - Ministerial reshuffle: the Permanent Secretary's report

NDM6668 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government’s Permanent Secretary to publish, with appropriate redactions to ensure anonymity of witnesses, the report into her investigation on “whether there is any evidence of a prior unauthorised sharing of information – i.e. a “leak” - by the Welsh Government of information relating to the recent Ministerial reshuffle”, as described in recent media reports.

 

ITV Wales - Leak inquiry clears First Minister - 25 January 2018

 

Wales Online - Outside the headlines: Politics updates from Cardiff Bay, Westminster and our town halls - 25 January 2018

 

Co-Submitters

Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Minutes:

The item started at 16.02

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion:

NDM6668 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Calls on the Welsh Government’s Permanent Secretary to publish, with appropriate redactions to ensure anonymity of witnesses, the report into her investigation on “whether there is any evidence of a prior unauthorised sharing of information – i.e. a “leak” - by the Welsh Government of information relating to the recent Ministerial reshuffle”, as described in recent media reports.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

26

0

51

The motion was agreed.

 

(30 mins)

8.

Plaid Cymru debate - Broadcasting

NDM6669  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Recognises the importance of broadcasting to the sustainability of viable democracy in Wales;


2. Is concerned by the significant decline in ITV Wales's broadcasting hours, and significant cuts to S4C and its current uncertain financial position;


3. Is also concerned about the position of Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting on commercial radio and local television, along with the impact of the UK Government's proposals to further regulate the radio market;


4. Notes that Wales needs to be at the forefront of the development of media technologies and that Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting needs to be on a broader number of platforms and modes of producing, publishing and distributing content;


5. Agrees that full consideration needs to be given to the devolution of responsibilities for broadcasting to Wales;


6. Calls on the Welsh Government to investigate the feasibility of devolving powers over broadcasting to Wales and to report back to the Assembly within one year.

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

 

Amendment 1. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete Points 5 and 6 and replace with:

Notes that the publication by Departure of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport of the independent review of S4C being undertaken by Euryn Ogwen Williams is still awaited.

Calls on the UK Government and broadcasters to ensure that both Welsh and English language broadcasting in Wales is funded adequately.

Recognises that the public service broadcasters should be fully accountable to all national parliaments of the United Kingdom, as appropriate to their remit.

 

[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected]

 

Amendment 2. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Delete point 6 and replace with:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government to investigate the viability of devolving powers over broadcasting to Wales and to report back to the Assembly within one year.

 

Amendment 3. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Notes the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes.

 

Amendment 4. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government and the Assembly to press for the retention of the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes to fund any expanded purposes that S4C may acquire following the Ogwen review.

 

Amendment 5. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Notes the increased obligations imposed on the BBC regarding portrayal and commissioning in the nations and regions in its renewed charter.

 

Amendment 6. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as a new point at the end of the motion:

 

Notes that a UK national broadcasting system is better placed to reach all nations and regions to promote understanding of devolution, notwithstanding that it has failed to do so to date.

Minutes:

The item started at 16.40

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM6669  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

 To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1) Recognises the importance of broadcasting to the sustainability of viable democracy in Wales;

2) Is concerned by the significant decline in ITV Wales's broadcasting hours, and significant cuts to S4C and its current uncertain financial position;


3) Is also concerned about the position of Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting on commercial radio and local television, along with the impact of the UK Government's proposals to further regulate the radio market;

4) Notes that Wales needs to be at the forefront of the development of media technologies and that Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting needs to be on a broader number of platforms and modes of producing, publishing and distributing content;

5) Agrees that full consideration needs to be given to the devolution of responsibilities for broadcasting to Wales;

6) Calls on the Welsh Government to investigate the feasibility of devolving powers over broadcasting to Wales and to report back to the Assembly within one year.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

1

38

51

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

 

Amendment 1. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete Points 5 and 6 and replace with:

Notes that the publication by Departure of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport of the independent review of S4C being undertaken by Euryn Ogwen Williams is still awaited.

Calls on the UK Government and broadcasters to ensure that both Welsh and English language broadcasting in Wales is funded adequately.

Recognises that the public service broadcasters should be fully accountable to all national parliaments of the United Kingdom, as appropriate to their remit.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

29

0

22

51

Amendment 1 was agreed.

As amendment 1 was agreed, amendment 2 was deselected

Amendment 3. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Notes the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

41

0

8

49

Amendment 3 was agreed.

Amendment 4. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government and the Assembly to press for the retention of the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes to fund any expanded purposes that S4C may acquire following the Ogwen review.

A vote was taken on amendment 4:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

50

0

1

51

Amendment 4 was agreed.

Amendment 5. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Notes the increased obligations imposed on the BBC regarding portrayal and commissioning in the nations and regions in its renewed charter.

A vote was taken on amendment 5:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

51

0

0

51

Amendment 5 was agreed.

Amendment 6. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Add as a new point at the end of the motion:

Notes that a UK national broadcasting system is better placed to reach all nations and regions to promote understanding of devolution, notwithstanding that it has failed to do so to date.

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

43

0

8

51

Amendment 6 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM6669  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

 To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 1) Recognises the importance of broadcasting to the sustainability of viable democracy in Wales;

2) Is concerned by the significant decline in ITV Wales's broadcasting hours, and significant cuts to S4C and its current uncertain financial position;

3) Is also concerned about the position of Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting on commercial radio and local television, along with the impact of the UK Government's proposals to further regulate the radio market;

4) Notes that Wales needs to be at the forefront of the development of media technologies and that Welsh-language and Welsh broadcasting needs to be on a broader number of platforms and modes of producing, publishing and distributing content;

5) Notes that the publication by Departure of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport of the independent review of S4C being undertaken by Euryn Ogwen Williams is still awaited;

6) Calls on the UK Government and broadcasters to ensure that both Welsh and English language broadcasting in Wales is funded adequately.

 

7) Recognises that the public service broadcasters should be fully accountable to all national parliaments of the United Kingdom, as appropriate to their remit;

8) Notes the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes;

9) Calls on the Welsh Government and the Assembly to press for the retention of the statutory obligation on the UK Government to provide S4C with sufficient funds to carry out its purposes to fund any expanded purposes that S4C may acquire following the Ogwen review;

10) Notes the increased obligations imposed on the BBC regarding portrayal and commissioning in the nations and regions in its renewed charter;

11) Notes that a UK national broadcasting system is better placed to reach all nations and regions to promote understanding of devolution, notwithstanding that it has failed to do so to date.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

41

0

8

49

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

(30 mins)

9.

Plaid Cymru debate - Continued membership of the Customs Union

NDM6670  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Supports Wales and the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the current EU customs union, as opposed to a new customs union.

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

 

Amendment 1. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Supports Wales and the United Kingdom’s agreement of a new customs arrangement between the UK and the EU, with customs requirements that are as frictionless as possible; building a new, economic and security relationship with the EU whilst enabling the UK to enter new trade agreements internationally.

 

[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected]

 

Amendment 2. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Reiterates its support for Wales and the United Kingdom’s continued participation in the Single Market and in a Customs Union with the EU, in order to provide the greatest possible integration with the economies of our nearest neighbours compatible with no longer being a member-state within the EU.

Minutes:

The item started at 17.09

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM6670  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Supports Wales and the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the current EU customs union, as opposed to a new customs union.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

8

0

43

51

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Supports Wales and the United Kingdom’s agreement of a new customs arrangement between the UK and the EU, with customs requirements that are as frictionless as possible; building a new, economic and security relationship with the EU whilst enabling the UK to enter new trade agreements internationally.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

17

0

34

51

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Reiterates its support for Wales and the United Kingdom’s continued participation in the Single Market and in a Customs Union with the EU, in order to provide the greatest possible integration with the economies of our nearest neighbours compatible with no longer being a member-state within the EU.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

25

51

Amendment 2 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM6670  Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Reiterates its support for Wales and the United Kingdom’s continued participation in the Single Market and in a Customs Union with the EU, in order to provide the greatest possible integration with the economies of our nearest neighbours compatible with no longer being a member-state within the EU.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

23

50

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

10.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 17.44

 

Point of Order



Following the Assembly vote in favour of the motion jointly tabled by Paul Davies and Rhun ap Iorwerth calling on the Permanent Secretary to publish her recent report into the leaking of information regarding the Cabinet reshuffle, Paul Davies raised a Point of Order to seek guidance from the Llywydd on the status of that vote and whether it should be respected.  The Llywydd stated that any vote of the National Assembly is important and has effect, and it is for the Government now to decide how it chooses to respond; though she would expect the Government to take seriously any resolution that is passed by this parliament.

 

Votes Summary

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(0 mins)

11.

Short Debate - postponed until 14 March

 

 

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