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Meeting: 20/10/2015 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 11.)
Stage 4 debate on the Local Government (Wales) Bill
NDM5855
Leighton Andrews (Rhondda)
To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.47:
Approves the
Local Government (Wales) Bill
Supporting
Documents
Local
Government (Wales) Bill
Explanatory
Memorandum
Decision:
The item started at 18.26
Voting on the
motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
NDM5855 Leighton Andrews (Rhondda)
To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.47:
Approves the Local Government (Wales) Bill
The result was as
follows:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
26 |
9 |
17 |
52 |
The motion was
agreed.
Meeting: 06/10/2015 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 12.)
Stage 4 debate on the Local Government (Wales) Bill - This item was withdrawn
Meeting: 29/09/2015 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 3.)
Stage 3 Standing Order 26.44 debate on the Local Government (Wales) Bill
In
accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be disposed of in the
order which the sections and schedules to which they relate, arise in the Bill.
The amendments have been
grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as
follows:
1. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: public involvement
14,
26, 27
2. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: Assembly procedures
1,
7, 10
3. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: economic regeneration and use of the Welsh language
32,
33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39
4. Amendments to the
Public Audit (Wales) Act 2004
15,
16
5. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: cycle of elections
17
6. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: consequential provision
22,
23, 24
7. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: duties on Welsh Ministers to report
18,
19
8. Electoral arrangements
for new principal areas: directions, guidance and reporting
2,
25, 3, 4, 8, 11, 12
9. Voluntary mergers of
local authorities: elections
5,
13, 28, 30, 31
10. Amendment to the Local
Government Finance Act 1992
20
11. Code of Practice on
Workforce Matters
21
12. Youth Councils
29
13. Restraints on
transactions by merging authorities: Assembly procedure
9
Supporting
Documents
Local
Government (Wales) Bill
Explanatory
Memorandum
Decision:
The item started at 14.50
In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments
will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they
relate, arise in the Bill.
A vote was taken on Amendment 14:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 32:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
26 |
1 |
27 |
54 |
Amendment
32 was not agreed
As
amendment 32 was not agreed, amendment 33 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 34:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
1 |
28 |
54 |
Amendment
34 was not agreed
As
amendment 34 was not agreed, amendment 35 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 36:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
26 |
1 |
27 |
54 |
Amendment
36 was not agreed
As
amendment 36 was not agreed, amendment 37 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 38:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
26 |
1 |
27 |
54 |
Amendment
38 was not agreed
As
amendment 38 was not agreed, amendment 39 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 26:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
13 |
0 |
41 |
54 |
Amendment
26 was not agreed
As
amendment 26 was not agreed, amendment 27 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 15:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 16:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 17:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
18 |
9 |
27 |
54 |
Amendment
17 was not agreed
Amendment 22 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 23 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 24 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on Amendment 18:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his casting
vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 19:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his casting
vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his casting
vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
Amendment 25 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on Amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 4:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 5:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
14 |
0 |
40 |
54 |
Amendment
5 was not agreed
As
amendment 5 was not agreed, amendments 13, 28, 30 and 31 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 20:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
18 |
0 |
36 |
54 |
Amendment
20 was not agreed
A vote was taken on Amendment 21:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 29:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 7:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 8:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 9:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 10:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 11:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
28 |
55 |
As
required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his
casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 12:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
16 |
0 |
38 |
54 |
Amendment
12 was not agreed
All sections and schedules of the Bill were
deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.
Meeting: 22/09/2015 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 8.)
Motion under Standing Order 26.36 to vary the order of Consideration of Stage 3 Amendments to the Local Government (Wales) Bill
NDM5823
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.36:
Agrees to dispose
of sections and schedules to the Local Government (Wales) Bill at Stage 3 in
the following order:
a) sections 2 -
47
b) section 1
c) long title
Decision:
The item started at 18.01
NDM5823
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.36:
Agrees to dispose
of sections and schedules to the Local Government (Wales) Bill at Stage 3 in
the following order:
a) sections 2 -
47
b) section 1
c) long title
The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Meeting: 24/06/2015 - Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee - Fourth Assembly (Item 2)
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 - consideration of amendments
In
accordance with Standing Order 26.21 the Committee will dispose of amendments
to the Bill in the following order:
Sections
2-42
Section
1
Long
title
Supporting
documents:
In
attendance:
Leighton
Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services
Sharon
Barry, Lawyer, Welsh Government
Gareth
Thomas, Policy Adviser, Local Government Reform, Welsh Government
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 11 , View reasons restricted (2/1)
Minutes:
In
accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following
amendments to the Bill:
Amendment 2 (Leighton
Andrews)
was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 48 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
Jocelyn
Davies |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
Amendment 48 was not
agreed. |
Amendment 28 (Peter
Black)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
|
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
|
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mike
Hedges |
|
Jocelyn
Davies |
Sandy
Mewies |
|
As the vote was tied,
the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 28 was not agreed. |
Amendment 40 (Rhodri
Glyn Thomas)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Christine
Chapman |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Jocelyn
Davies |
John
Griffiths |
Mark
Isherwood |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
|
Amendment 40 was not
agreed. |
As amendment 40 was not agreed, amendment 41 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) fell.
Amendment 42 (Rhodri
Glyn Thomas)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Christine
Chapman |
Mark
Isherwood |
Jocelyn
Davies |
John
Griffiths |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
|
Amendment 42 was not
agreed. |
As amendment 42 was not agreed, amendment 43 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) fell.
Amendment 44 (Rhodri
Glyn Thomas)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Christine
Chapman |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Jocelyn
Davies |
John
Griffiths |
Mark
Isherwood |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
|
Amendment 44 was not
agreed. |
As amendment 44 was not agreed, amendment 45 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) fell.
Amendment 46 (Rhodri
Glyn Thomas)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Christine
Chapman |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Jocelyn
Davies |
John
Griffiths |
Mark
Isherwood |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
|
Amendment 46 was not
agreed. |
As amendment 46 was not agreed, amendment 47 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) fell.
Amendment 49 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
Jocelyn
Davies |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
Amendment 49 was not
agreed. |
Amendment 50 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
Jocelyn
Davies |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
Amendment 50 was not
agreed. |
Amendment 51 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
Jocelyn
Davies |
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
|
Mike
Hedges |
|
|
Sandy
Mewies |
|
Amendment 51 was not
agreed. |
Amendment 3 (Leighton
Andrews)
was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 4 (Leighton
Andrews)
was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 52 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
|
Mark
Isherwood |
John
Griffiths |
|
Peter
Black |
Gwyn
Price |
|
Rhodri
Glyn Thomas |
Mike
Hedges |
|
Jocelyn
Davies |
Sandy
Mewies |
|
As the vote was tied,
the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20
(ii)). Therefore amendment 52 was not agreed. |
Amendment 53 (Janet
Finch-Saunders)
In favour |
Against |
Abstain |
Janet
Finch-Saunders |
Christine
Chapman |
|
Mark
Isherwood ... view the full minutes text for item 2
Local Government (Wales) Bill: order of consideration for Stage 2 proceedings in Committee
Supporting documents: Minutes: 11.1
The Committee discussed and agreed to vary the order of consideration for stage
2 proceedings on the Local Government (Wales) Bill as follows:
Debate on the Financial Resolution of the Local Government (Wales) Bill
NDM5761
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any
provisions resulting from the Local Government (Wales) Bill,
agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69 arising
in consequence of the Bill. Decision: The item started at 18.36 NDM5761
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any
provisions resulting from the Local Government (Wales) Bill, agrees to any
increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69 arising
in consequence of the Bill. The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Debate on the General Principles of the Local Government (Wales) Bill
NDM5760
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.11: Agrees to the
general principles of the Local Government (Wales) Bill. The Local
Government (Wales) Bill and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the
Assembly on 26 January 2015; The report of
Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee on the Local Government
(Wales) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 5 May 2015. Supporting
Documents Decision: The item started at 17.41 NDM5760
Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order
26.11: Agrees
to the general principles of the Local Government (Wales) Bill. The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Draft report on the Local Government (Wales) Bill
CLA(4)-11-15 – Paper 13 – Draft Report Supporting documents:
7 Local Government (Wales) Bill: Consideration of Draft Report
Supporting documents: Minutes: 7.1
Members agreed to draft report with a
few amendments. 7.2
Members noted the additional
information provided by the Minister for Public Services.
Local Government (Wales) Bill: consideration of draft report
Supporting documents: Minutes: 6.
The Committee discussed the Draft Report.
Draft report on the Local Government (Wales) Bill
CLA(4)-10-15 – Paper 9 – Draft Report Supporting documents:
Local Government (Wales) Bill: consideration of key issues
Supporting documents: Minutes: 5.
The Committee discussed the key issues for inclusion in its report.
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 7 - Minister for Public Services
Leighton
Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services Gareth
Thomas, Policy Adviser, Local Government Reform, Welsh Government Sharon
Barry, Lawyer, Local Government Team, Welsh Government Supporting
documents: Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1
The Committee received evidence from Leighton Andrews AM, Minister for Public
Services
5 Local Government (Wales) Bill - consultation responses
Supporting documents: Minutes: 5.1
The Committee discussed the Consultations Responses
5 Local Government (Wales) Bill: Evidence session 1
Leighton
Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services Gareth
Thomas, Policy Adviser, Local Government Reform, Welsh Government Clare
Smith, Regulatory Impact Assessment Lead for the Bill, Welsh Government Supporting documents: Minutes: 5.1
The Committee took evidence from the
Minister for Public Services on the Local Government (Wales) Bill. 5.2
The Minister agreed to make available
to the Committee: ·
any
estimates of costs contained in the cases submitted to him by the six local
authorities for voluntary mergers; ·
clarification
on whether the Welsh Government has the power to merge pension funds and if
there are specific rules regarding local government pension funds; and ·
a
report of the previous staff commission (possibly published in September 1996)
in relation to previous mergers.
Local Government (Wales) Bill: discussion of evidence received in sessions 5 and 6
Minutes: 5.1
The Committee discussed the evidence.
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 5 - Local Democracy and Boundary Commission for Wales
Local Democracy and
Boundary Commission for Wales Owen
Watkin, Chair Steve
Halsall, Chief Executive Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1
The Committee received evidence from: ·
Owen Watkin, Chair Local Democracy and Boundary Commission for
Wales. ·
Steve Halsall, Chief Executive Local Democracy
and Boundary Commission for Wales
3 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 6 - Auditor General for Wales
Huw
Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales Supporting documents: Minutes: 3.1
The Committee received evidence from: ·
Huw Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales ·
Alan Morris, Director, Sector Leader for Local
Government Criminal Justice. 3.2 The Auditor
General for Wales agreed to provide the Committee with the following:
3 Initial Consideration of Local Government (Wales) Bill
Supporting documents: Minutes: 3.1
The Committee considered the financial
implications of the Local Government (Wales) Bill. 3.2
The Committee agreed to invite the
Minister for Public Services to provide evidence on the Local Government
(Wales) Bill and write to all local authorities who expressed an interest in
voluntary merger for information on the costs of putting together the business
cases.
Local Government (Wales) Bill: discussion of evidence received in sessions 3 and 4
Minutes: 6.1
The Committee discussed the evidence sessions in 3 and 4.
3 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 4 - Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales
Richard
Penn, Chair, Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales Supporting documents: Minutes: 3.1
The Committee received evidence from, Richard Penn, Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 3 - unions
Unison Dominic
Macaskill, Regional Manager, Head of Local Government GMB Mike
Payne, Regional Political Officer Unite John
Toner, Regional Officer for Swansea Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1
The Committee received evidence from: ·
Dominic
Macaskill, Unison ·
Mike
Payne, GMB ·
John
Toner, Unite
2 Evidence in relation to the Local Government (Wales) Bill
(Indicative time 1.30pm) Leighton
Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services CLA(4)-06-15- Paper 1 – Statement of Policy Intent CLA(4)-06-15 – Research Service Briefing CLA(4)-06-15 – Legal Advice Note Supporting documents: Minutes: The
Committee received evidence from Leighton Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services.
Local Government (Wales) Bill: discussion of evidence received in session 2
Minutes: 4.1 The Committee discussed the evidence.
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill: evidence session 2 - local government representatives
Gwynedd Council Councillor
Dyfed Edwards, Leader of Gwynedd Council Ceredigion County
Council Councillor
Ray Quant, Deputy Leader and Cabinet member Corporate Services, Improvement and
Performance Management Torfaen County Borough
Council Councillor
Anthony Hunt, Executive Member Resources Welsh Local Government
Association (WLGA) Steve
Thomas, Chief Executive WLGA Daniel
Hurford, Head of Policy, WLGA Neath Port Talbot County
Borough Council Steve
Phillips, Chief Executive, Neath Port Talbot County Borough Council Flintshire County
Council and Lawyers in Local Government Gareth
Owens, Chief Officer (Governance), Monitoring Officer and Deputy Returning
Officer at Flintshire County Council; also representing Lawyers in Local
Government Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1. The Committee received evidence from:
2 Local Government (Wales) Bill: Evidence session 1 Minister for Public Services
Leighton
Andrews AM, Minister for Public Services Gareth
Thomas, Policy Adviser, Local Government Reform, Welsh Government Sharon
Barry, Lawyer, Local Government Team, Welsh Government Supporting
documents: Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1
The Committee received evidence from Leighton Andrews AM, Minister for Public
Services, and his officials. 2.2
During the session the Minister agreed to provide:
5 Local Government (Wales) Bill: discussion of evidence received in session 1
Supporting documents: Minutes: 5.1
The Committee discussed the evidence.
Local Government (Wales) Bill: discussion of further evidence sessions
Minutes: 6.1
The Committee discussed further evidence sessions.
1 Consideration of scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Local Government (Wales) Bill
Supporting documents: Minutes: 1.1
The Committee considered the scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the
Local Government (Wales) Bill.
6 Consideration of the proposed timetable for the Local Government (Wales) Bill
Supporting documents: Minutes: 6.1 The Committee considered the proposed timetable for the
Local Government (Wales) Bill |