Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 14 January 2019

Meeting time: 13.30 - 14.58
This meeting can be viewed
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Assembly Members:

Nick Ramsay AM (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM

Neil Hamilton AM

Rhianon Passmore AM

Jenny Rathbone AM

Wales Audit Office:

Adrian Crompton - Auditor General for Wales

Matthew Mortlock

Dave Thomas

Mike Usher

Committee Staff:

Fay Bowen (Clerk)

Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk)



1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members to the Committee.

1.2        Apologies were received from Adam Price AM and Jack Sargeant AM.

1.3        The Chair thanked Adam Price AM for Chairing the Committee meetings during his paternity leave.

1.4        The Chair expressed condolences on behalf of the Committee to the family of the late Steffan Lewis AM who passed away on 11 January 2019.



2       Paper(s) to note

2.1 The papers were noted.



2.1   The Regeneration Investment Fund for Wales (RIFW): Letter from the Welsh Government (29 November 2018)



2.2   Community Safety in Wales: Additional information from the Welsh Government



2.3   Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Additional information from National Museum Wales



2.4   Auditor General for Wales Report: Managing the impact of Brexit on the Rural Development Programme



2.5   Auditor General for Wales Report(s): Maturity of Local Government in use of data



2.6   Auditor General for Wales Report: Fiscal Devolution in Wales



3       NHS Wales Informatics Services: Welsh Government Response to the Committee's Report

3.1 Members considered the Welsh Government’s response to the Committee’s report on NHS Wales Informatics Services.

3.2 Members discussed the Auditor General’s comments on the Welsh Government’s response, and agreed that the Chair would write to the Welsh Government seeking clarification on a number of issues and requesting regular updates on the pace of improvements.



4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

4.1 The motion was agreed.



5       The Welsh Government’s relationship with Pinewood: Consideration of draft Report

5.1 Members discussed the draft report and agreed to consider a further draft at the meeting on 28 January.



6       Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Consideration of scoping paper

6.1 Members considered the scoping paper and agreed to undertake an inquiry into this issue.



7       National Fraud Initiative: Consideration of scoping paper

7.1 Members considered the scoping paper agreed to undertake an inquiry into this issue.



8       Welsh Government Financial Support for Business: Auditor General for Wales'  Report

8.1 Members discussed the Auditor General’s report agreed to undertake an inquiry into this issue.



9       Auditor General for Wales Report(s): Forward work programme

9.1 Members noted the Auditor General for Wales’ Forward Work Programme and that the deadline for responses was the end of the week.





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